Madeline

hey Ammon,

 

Emma was able to help me compress it smaller, but even though these files are less than 3M I keep getting 'failure to deliver' notices from your email....hopefully you are able to find them here now?

 

-materiality need attention

-consider difference of materiality in education space vs. green house space

-heaps to do, but very exciting

-how do you get to bottles?

 

I recongnize that I do have heaps to do. after talking to Tim on Tuesday night, I started my building on the close over (so you won't recognize much from the plans). After my crit on Thursday night, I have started over again, in a subtractive rather than additive way.

 

I am including some dodgey renderings just to give you an idea of what I am working on....they are definitely not presentation quality, but I don't want to keep you in the dark on what I am doing. I have been building this model and I will switch now to drawings. I just really need to commit to a design (hopfully this one) so that I can really develop it. I enjoyed doing the 1:1 drawings of the bottle wall and i am excited to get to that stage with structural details of this on site development and with the pod as well.

 

Thanks for your help, and sorry again about the confusion.

Madeline

 

Ben#1 Interim

Hi Ammon,

Attached is my pres, and in the following email is the group pres. The group did a fair bit of work would be interested to hear your further comments.
For my personal proposal:

- Want to heavily get into materiality and structural system.- Develop some images of the interior spaces and moods.- Deal with planning issues further.- Really develop a strong connection between the ground plane and my building.- Considering my built proposal is a week and a half old, I think it's not too bad, but I have a long way to go.
Cheers,
Ben.

Jade Interim 2 post edited drawings

Hi Ammon,


I presented my interim as A2 trace pin ups, but have editted them into black and white for this email attachment. Apologies if the drawings are grey and splotchy, I'm experimenting on the best way to scan, edit and digitise them but still trying to keep the hand drawn quality.

My feedback from the crits:

- Chop away top half of the plan, take off the rear end of the programs like cafeteria, dining area (under chapter house) so my scheme is a lot stronger with just the key spaces (burrow entry, reflective space, gathering space, meditation rooms) 
- Program wise, digging under the cathedral for a 'gathering space' doesnt seem like the most justifiable proposition. Maybe it could be all-faiths/interdenominational meditation rooms instead, making it an underground silent retreat away place
- Ground floor plan significantly under developed (I realised this too, working on it now)
- Need to find a way of explaining my concept with more confidence and clarity.  
- Place people where they get the best view from underground

Jade

[closeoverplay2] Comment on "HAN'S INTERIM"

P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}

han,
i really agree with the feedback, i've given some detail (see all comment in yellow and text boxes) but i really think the big job for you is making these programmes happen through specificity and detail, you need to make them real, playful, interesting, diverse. this is a huge job, but will make this project unreal!

other than that the auditorium space formally could be pushed more in shape below, and structure above, the structure must work for this to be really considered, especially as it joins a cathedral!
as a masters student, if the public forum is your key space then you have to be on top of the precedents, typologies that are out there and respond showing you learnt something from the cathedral, and can offer something else - it's currently a pretty average space (boring), you need to make it the one and all space in melbourne~! or be careful with the contrast between above and below

A

From: Posterous [comment-cnFImFjehgxJutn@posterous.com]
Sent: 08 October 2011 18:24
To: Ammon Allan Beyerle
Subject: [closeoverplay2] Comment on "HAN'S INTERIM"

--- Reply above this line to comment on this post ---

HAN just commented on the post "HAN'S INTERIM" on Close Over(p)lay #2: St Paul's Cathedral 2011

Hi Ammon,

The crit was very informative and the comments we received were specific and really helpful in moving us forward towards resolution, thanks for picking such great guests.

The main points i took from the interim and the direction forward for me are:

- resolution and further discovery the unique spatial and programatic experiences my underground project will provide for the user, hence attracting them to the destination. ie: what would make people specifically venture underground when it would be much easier to just take the usual trek at ground level? My reasons for future underground networks is not sufficient.
- The journey from narrow/intimate spaces to amplified/transparent spaces need careful consideration and shown visually (plan, section, perspectives). The prospect of narrow spaces underground may not be a good idea?
- The multiple entrence points need much more work, more responsive visually, and contextually to provide a interface and visual invitation for the building as it is predominately underground
- Structure and materiality need to be worked on

Looking forward to your feedback!

Posterous Spaces is the place to post everything. Just email us.

Feedback for Jessie

See annotations and notes in yellow bubbles

I definitely agree with the critics, materiality will make or break this project

Take on board all the developed feedback from last week in front if the class, there's still quite a bit nit yet looked at / responded to

Overall, it's looking good but you need to nut out the relationship with the cathedral

You should probably go back to the start in terms of the question of ambience, it has no depth yet.. And for bath wellness centres it is paramount!!

Precedents, mood boards etc etc
Surfaces, textures, colours, shapes

feeback to to scott

P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}

attached,

i agree with the critics comments thoroughly (pasted below)

the mess of the things that service this sort of programme needs to be brought in and even made a major part of the architectural project.

other than that i think your facade is still not as crafted as we were speaking about last class, it needs to be 10 times more amazing, and keep going on your Ys

consider again the scale on the streetscape etc,

lovely project here, it could be really something, but go bolder again

A


---

Hi Ammon,

Hope your having fun. Please find attached my interim presentation. Some of the comments were:

- Landscape needs work / mediation between indoor & outdoor
- Accept the need for a lot of mechanical ventilation & work it into the scheme above ground
- Is there a hierarchy in the studio space? Eg: master and apprentice
- include more specific workshop areas rather than a collaborative space. Eg fume cupboards, dangerous mechanical areas / noisy tasks, etc.
- access for large mechanical equipment and materials.

I did stress that my main concern will be the detail, however i didn't get any comment (I only had enough time to produce one basic detail for my presentation). And the engineers arrived after my presentation, so there was no feedback from them.
I will work on structure and detail this weekend & email you any progress (I have a couple of other assignments to catch up on today unfortunately)

Looking forward to your comment.

Thanks,

Scott.